Curse

Sagius Truthbarron · Aug 26, 2005, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I've been a few random groups with smiting monks that use hex breaker.. All you hear from the enemy team for 10 minutes is "CLICK CLICK CLICK"

I don't know if it was really that great or why they did that. I'de like to know why myself.

Jessy · Aug 26, 2005, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Well, I for one am in the market for a new game. Please don't start singing now that I am pissed off about some particular nerf. I think the fact that there are skill nerfs altogether poses a problem because I put in an effort to acquire--possibly even buy with gold and a skill point--a certain skill ... and let's face it, I don't accept the dealer to steal a car I test-drove and purchased to replace it with a tricycle.

I am not going into this whole discussion as to what constitutes balanced gameplay, every participant in this discussion defines balance on the basis of personal playing preference, regardless of the suggested reasons.

The reasons that were given for the nerfing--encouraging players to PvP, play in teams etc.--may be well intentioned, however, it can also be seen as a lack of flexibility to let players enjoy this world the way they see fit ... and for me, that is just not good enough.

PS: Considering the amount of graphics errors this program causes on a number of my PCs, I find it amusing that Anet has the time to play with the skills while their product keeps crashing out.

Sinbios · Aug 26, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59

It just occured to me that this will signify a disruption in the balance of power between the regions, too. America has the most farmers, since American has favour most of the time. Now take all those people who used to be farmers, and toss them into the pvp pool. And face it, once somebody's been through UW hundreds of times, they're a lot calmer in a mess of 20 bodies. Will this mean further dominace of pvp by America?

AeroLion · Aug 26, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by Blackace

the nerf to hex breaker does nothing, dont worry.

Shatter Hex had a massive aoe, which is why they had to nerf it.

Ah, ok. I never noticed. I always thought it was nearby foes on Shatter in the first place. Didn't much care for the damage other than a bonus for removing a hex.

Russell.Crowe · Aug 26, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

I won't heal any of you anyway, so eh =). Also, just because they nerfed protective bond, doesn't mean there aren't other ways to solo UW. Not all builds are public, this includes mine.

2_fingers · Aug 26, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Its interesting to see the varied responses here

Mine would be a mixed reaction. Firstly being that the nerfing will cause a shortage of monks. Back then, there was an incentive to create a monk for pve - so that u can eventually do smite runs etc. Now, the only incentive i see is u create a monk to get yelled at, abused for not having 99999 energy, instant 1000 life heal, 1/2 sec resurrection/rebirth or not healing someone because u were being disrupted/attacked/energy drained etc. Oh wait... that isnt an incentive. People are going to stop creating monks - frankly healing someone is not as fun as dishing damage. Coupled with the insults and abuse we going to look at a serious fall in the number of monks.

2ndly, the only good thing i can think off is this: we probably wont see a billion monks running off into twin serpant lakes or emberlight. Botters would be the hardest hit imo. But i doubt that would stop them for long. These guys probably would figure out a way to bot despite the patch.

This is what i think about the 105 nerf.

Maiyn · Aug 26, 2005, 07:13 AM // 07:13

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Originally Posted by Audhumla

The invicimonk needed to be nerfed and everyone knows it. No other class can solo with such effeciency and ease.

I'm happy to see the nice buff to necs

Sorry but I think you need to alter your statement to this;

The invicimonk needed to be nerfed and everyone knows it. No other class can solo the underworld with such effeciency and ease.

Other classes are much better at soloing than the monk was in my opinion. I will be going back to my W/Mo build now

Save my monk for pvp, and questing.

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Originally Posted by 2_hander

Now, the only incentive i see is u create a monk to get yelled at, abused for not having 99999 energy, instant 1000 life heal, 1/2 sec resurrection/rebirth or not healing someone because u were being disrupted/attacked/energy drained etc. Oh wait... that isnt an incentive.

Thank you. Precisely.... sigh. ESPECIALLY since they nerfed healing seed

id0l · Aug 26, 2005, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I'm a bit disappointed with the protective bond nerfing...but definatly not as much as the healing seed nerf. Why did they have to mess with this...

And why so many changes to every class but Warrior? Maybe I should keep my mouth shut...they might nerf them too.

Meteor = 5e...I don't even get that.

Distracting shot is even faster now.

But they made crippling shot near useless (IMO). 8 second cripple is pretty lame for a 15e skill. Wow, they lowered the recharge to 1 second...lol, it can be spammed twice (for most rangers)! Huzzah!

Thank god no more spirit spam...that's all I gotta say about that...shouldn't be able to "overlap" spirits anyway - in both respects. Can you double up on healing breeze? I think not... ;P

I cannot comment on the Nec nerfs, I don't have enough experience with them. Same for mes...

Sandman Uk · Aug 26, 2005, 07:18 AM // 07:18

LOL Its a great update.

All you greedy Uw solo farmers are crying because you now cant make your millions. Giving us who play the game properly a chance to bid for weapons in auctions without being outpriced by a Monk who has 1 Million in Plat and thinks nothing of paying 400 plat for a weapon.

Stop crying and get on with it ya greedy monkeys.

As a Necro/Ranger Its made my build a little stronger in PVE

Eet GnomeSmasher · Aug 26, 2005, 07:19 AM // 07:19

I love how some people can heartily and gleefully applaud some nerfs, and then turn around and cry about how unjust another nerf was because it affected them.

AeroLion · Aug 26, 2005, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by Maiyn

The invicimonk needed to be nerfed and everyone knows it. No other class can solo the underworld with such effeciency and ease.

Er, thing is, a monk still can. It just goes slightly slower now.

Kishin · Aug 26, 2005, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Some nice work here. No Enchantment Removal buffs though, that's a problem.

Sinbios · Aug 26, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Sandman Uk

LOL Its a great update.

All you greedy Uw solo farmers are crying because you now cant make your millions. Giving us who play the game properly a chance to bid for weapons in auctions without being outpriced by a Monk who has 1 Million in Plat and thinks nothing of paying 400 plat for a weapon.

Stop crying and get on with it ya greedy monkeys.

As a Necro/Ranger Its made my build a little stronger in PVE

See? Petty jealousy. Doesn't matter if it f*cks up the economy, as long as the rich get screwed.

Vwoss · Aug 26, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by Sandman Uk

LOL Its a great update.

All you greedy Uw solo farmers are crying because you now cant make your millions. Giving us who play the game properly a chance to bid for weapons in auctions without being outpriced by a Monk who has 1 Million in Plat and thinks nothing of paying 400 plat for a weapon.

Stop crying and get on with it ya greedy monkeys.

As a Necro/Ranger Its made my build a little stronger in PVE

I have never seen this situation. Stop making things up just to defend your cause.

Dac Vin · Aug 26, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by AeroLion

Er, thing is, a monk still can. It just goes slightly slower now.

Note the "with such efficiency and ease" part. Maybe they still can, but now that prot bond got nerfed, it's not quite easy

Russell.Crowe · Aug 26, 2005, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Sandman Uk

LOL Its a great update.

All you greedy Uw solo farmers are crying because you now cant make your millions. Giving us who play the game properly a chance to bid for weapons in auctions without being outpriced by a Monk who has 1 Million in Plat and thinks nothing of paying 400 plat for a weapon.

Stop crying and get on with it ya greedy monkeys.

As a Necro/Ranger Its made my build a little stronger in PVE

You sir are a jealous moron, I'll still be bringing in the bacon so please celebrate all you want. All this update did was make me richer.

Lady Ting · Aug 26, 2005, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Lets all send death threats to anet its our only chance >:| !

Savio · Aug 26, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Jessy

I am not going into this whole discussion as to what constitutes balanced gameplay, every participant in this discussion defines balance on the basis of personal playing preference, regardless of the suggested reasons.

Balance ain't when when one side's got the upper hand constantly. If I could take my lvl 20 warrior into Ascalon Arenas, I would pwn others easily. To some players, that would be "fair." Balance ISN'T subjective.

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PS: Considering the amount of graphics errors this program causes on a number of my PCs, I find it amusing that Anet has the time to play with the skills while their product keeps crashing out.

Considering I've never had a problem with my computer, maybe something's wrong with yours. And my computer is pretty crappy too.

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Originally Posted by 2_fingers

Firstly being that the nerfing will cause a shortage of monks.

Considering they were in UW soloing and not healing/protecting you, it's not going to affect what you see. The only Monks you see go bye-bye are the Monks that people created just to farm.

AeroLion · Aug 26, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Dac Vin

Note the "with such efficiency and ease" part. Maybe they still can, but now that prot bond got nerfed, it's not quite easy

Note the "slightly" portion of my post. It still is quite easy.

Sandman Uk · Aug 26, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Sinbios

See? Petty jealousy. Doesn't matter if it f*cks up the economy, as long as the GREEDY get screwed.

Greedy is as Greedy does

All you that threaten to leave the game will go for a max two weeks then you will be back because its such a great game. You just all fell into the Greedy trap and seen an easy way to make millions.

Im not jelouse else I would have gone out and built a 105/55 build and done it myself.

Stop moaning

/Applauds Isaiah Cartwright and the Anet team for having the balls to make such a big change